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Baseball... Then and Now
Volume 6, #14, April 28, 2008
News Item: April 12, 1975 – Dennis Eckersley makes his major
league debut.
There really should a law stating that a disclaimer must be read
before about 95 percent of all local radio sportscasts dealing with
baseball. “The sound bite you are about to hear may not necessarily
be true or even accurate. Listener discretion is advised.”
That’s because about 95 percent of the local sports guys either
don’t have a clue when it comes to baseball, or are so hopelessly
prejudiced (i.e., they’re homers) that their words must be
taken with a grain of salt. Lot’s Wife probably knew more
about baseball than some of these bozos.
A case in point occurred last week when a proclamation came across
the airwaves that John Smoltz’ notching his 3000th strikeout
was merely crossing the T’s and dotting the I’s of his
Cooperstown Credentials. Not even a particularly good alliteration,
this statement almost caused a major pileup on I-85 south of Atlanta,
in addition to just not being true. Yes, 3000 Ks is an impressive
achievement (only 16 pitchers have done it since 1876), and yes,
Smoltz has been a good pitcher for many years, and will deserve
consideration for the Hall of Fame at some point. But, as to 3000
strikeouts, along with his other credentials making him a lock for
the Hall right now, in the spring of 2008… get real.
Look, there are two questions here. One, does Smoltz (or any other
player) deserve to be in the Hall of Fame? Two, what chance does
Smoltz (or any other player) have of being elected to the Hall of
Fame? These are most certainly NOT the same question, and, in fact,
historically, have often diverged greatly, since very good cases
can be made for the inclusion in the Hall of a bunch of people who
aren’t there (Ron Santo, Harry Stovey, Ben Shibe, Andre Dawson,
Wes Ferrell, Bob Caruthers, Al Reach, etc., etc., etc.) and for
the exclusion of a bunch of people who are there (Dizzy Dean, Freddie
Lindstrom, George Kelly, Rube Marquard, Harry Hooper, Rabbit Maranville,
Jesse Haines, Jack Chesbro, Ross Youngs, Ray Schalk, Rick Ferrell,
etc., etc., etc.)
Tackling the first question first and the second question second,
let’s compare Smoltz to some meaningful peers in the pitching
game, both historical peers and current peers. Since Smoltz’
strikeouts brought the subject up in the first place, let’s
compare him to a pitcher with even more strikeouts who isn’t
in the Hall (Smoltz being listed second herein, with his stats prior
to yesterday’s meltdown against the Mets).
G
|
W |
L |
PCT |
IP |
H |
BB |
K |
ERA |
ERA+ |
| 692 |
287 |
250 |
.5343 |
4970 |
4632 |
1322 |
3701 |
3.31 |
118 |
| 706 |
210 |
146 |
.590 |
3390 |
2969 |
990 |
3006 |
3.25 |
127 |
The first pitcher is, of course, Bert Blyleven, the only pitcher
with more Ks than Smoltz (he’s fifth all-time) who’s
eligible for the Hall, but not a member. Quickly, Smoltz looks like
the better pitcher, having a better W-L percentage, a little better
K/W ratio and a better Adjusted ERA. He also has 38 points on the
Black Ink Test, compared to Blyleven’s 16. Also, Smoltz is
known for having 15 postseason wins that aren’t accounted
for here. But, Blyleven pitched more than Smoltz has to date, and
he has a slightly better hits per inning ratio in addition to piling
up 77 (count ‘em, 77) more wins, and he has 700 more strikeouts.
Wins are not an inconsiderable measure. (After all, isn’t
that the idea of the game in the first place?) Smoltz is just 91st
on the career wins list, and 32 of those pitchers ahead of him are
not in the Hall Fame, starting with Billy Pierce, Bob Welch and
Bobo Newson (211) and ending with Bobby Matthews (297).
Further, it should be noted that Blyleven’s postseason record
isn’t anything to be ashamed of… he has, in fact, a
better winning percentage, a better ERA and a better K/W ratio in
the postseason than does Smoltz. Something else you may not realize,
Blyleven’s teams won four of their five postseason series,
and both the World Series he appeared in. Something you probably
do realize, Smoltz’ teams have just split the 24 postseason
series they have been in, and are 1-4 in World Series play.
| G |
W |
L |
PCT |
IP |
H |
BB |
K |
ERA |
| BERT 8 |
5 |
1 |
.833 |
47 |
43 |
8 |
36 |
2.47 |
| JOHN 40 |
15 |
4 |
.789 |
207 |
168 |
69 |
194 |
2.65 |
Does any of this prove that Smoltz or Blyleven was the better pitcher,
or that either one deserves, or doesn’t deserve, to be in
the Hall? No, they’re actually pretty well matched when you
take everything into consideration, but the key consideration here
is that Blyleven and his 287 wins has been waiting for what seems
like forever for the call from Cooperstown. From a practical point
of view, that does not bode well for Smoltz’ immediate chances.
But what about Smoltz’ saves? The “Radio Nowhere”
types love to bring that stat up when talking about Smoltz’
“Glory Days.” Smoltz spent three years as a closer,
so he’s the second coming of Hall of Famer Dennis Eckersley,
right? Wrong. Eckersley was unique, and they’re not very similar.
| G |
W |
L |
PCT |
IP |
H |
BB |
K |
SV |
ERA |
ERA+ |
| 1071 |
197 |
171 |
.535 |
3286 |
3076 |
738 |
2401 |
390 |
3.50 |
116 |
| 706 |
210 |
146 |
.590 |
3390 |
2969 |
990 |
3006 |
154 |
3.25 |
127 |
The numbers speak for themselves. While Smoltz does have a better
Adjusted ERA, at this point, Eckersley has pitched in 350 more games
than Smoltz (with almost the same number of innings), has only 13
fewer wins and way over twice as many saves. If you need any further
proof of his unique status, check out the Similarity Scores on Eckersley’s
page on baseball-reference.com. In “The Politics of Glory,”
Bill James, who invented this metric, notes that a Similarity Score
of 783 (out of 1000) makes the two players thus compared “vaguely
similar.” What then are we to make of Eckersley, whose closest
comp, Lindy McDaniel, scores at 722 (and who only has three other
players above 700)? That’s easy, Eckersley is unique in baseball
history, as unique in is own way as Babe Ruth, and shouldn’t
be used as a Hall of Fame comparison for anybody. For instance,
Eckersley and Smoltz WERE comparable at the age of 36 and 37 (around
an 870 Similarity Score), but Eckersley then tacked on another half
dozen years of top shelf relief, and Smoltz went back to starting,
completely changing their career profiles.
Speaking of comps, of the 10 current closest comps to Smoltz in
baseball history, only three, Jim Bunning, Catfish Hunter and Don
Drysdale, are in the Hall. That doesn’t mean that Smoltz only
has a 30 percent chance of getting elected, but it does mean that
pitchers like Smoltz haven’t fared real well in the balloting.
Smoltz’ closest comps are Kevin Brown, Curt Schilling, Bob
Welch and Orel Hershiser. Having thus brought Schilling into the
conversation, he and Smoltz are a pretty good match (an 880 Similarity
Score), and are also exact contemporaries, and have many of the
same Cooperstown Credentials. Do either of them belong in the Hall?
And which one is better? Once again, Smoltz is second.
| G |
W |
L |
PCT |
IP |
H |
BB |
K |
SV |
ERA |
ERA+ |
| 569 |
216 |
146 |
.597 |
3261 |
2998 |
711 |
3116 |
22 |
3.46 |
127 |
| 706 |
210 |
146 |
.590 |
3390 |
2969 |
990 |
3006 |
154 |
3.25 |
127 |
At this point, they are indeed a good match in the regular season.
Smoltz has pitched more and has more saves, but Schilling’s
incredible strikeout/walk ratio and his strikeout rate make points
for him. Their postseason records are also notable.
| G |
W |
L |
PCT |
IP |
H |
W |
K |
ERA |
| 40 |
15 |
4 |
.789 |
207 |
168 |
69 |
194 |
2.65 |
| 19 |
11 |
2 |
.846 |
133 |
104 |
25 |
120 |
2.23 |
Here we also find similarity, except that Schilling has the edge
(Smoltz has just four post season saves, by the way) and Schilling’s
teams have won 10 of the 12 postseason series he’s been in,
and three of the four World Series. So, altogether, the two of them
are a pretty good match with Schilling having a slight advantage
statistically at this point.
Why mention this at all? It’s because of the second factor,
let’s call it their electability. As noted, just because someone
deserves to be elected to the Hall of Fame doesn’t mean he
will be elected. And, just because someone is already in the Hall
of Fame doesn’t mean he belongs there. The fact is that the
Hall of Fame is about more than accomplishments. It’s about,
well, it’s about fame. Isn’t that why it’s called
the Hall of Fame? Go back to that list of players who are in the
Hall, even though their accomplishments would not seem to justify
their inclusion. There are, in fact, a lot of players who are in
the Hall largely because they were famous. Like…
Dizzy Dean
Lefty Gomez
Rube Waddell
Rabbit Maranville
Don Drysdale
Rube Marquard
Harry Hooper
Jack Chesbro
Ed Walsh
Addie Joss
Candy Cummings
Roger Bresnahan
Just to name a few. These guys were all good players. Maybe not
great, but, they were famous. The first four were four of the great
characters in baseball history. Drysdale was a big, blonde Southern
California surfer type who rode in on Sandy Koufax’ shirttails.
(As Jayson Stark has so astutely pointed out, Koufax himself is
overrated in the baseball pantheon because of his undeniable fame.)
Marquard and Hooper (and maybe Stan Coveleski) have Larry Ritter
to thank for their election… such was the power of “The
Glory of Their Times.” Chesbro, Walsh and Joss were famous
hurlers of the Deadball Era… Chesbro because he won 41 games
in a season (and lost the pennant on a wild pitch in the next to
last game), Walsh because he was a character (he could strut sitting
down, it was said), and Joss because he died young. (Ross Youngs
got in the Hall the same way.) The last two are noted for supposedly
inventing the curve ball and shin guards. Right. But, one thing
all 12 have in common is, they’re all famous (or at least
they were at some point that the Hall electors remembered.) And
that has a lot to do with electability, at least among marginal
candidates.
Bert Blyleven was a fine pitcher for many years. But, he never
was really in the spotlight, at least not like Don Drysdale, Dizzy
Dean, Lefty Gomez or, for that matter, Curt Schilling. The same
can easily be said for John Smoltz. Except for his Cy Young year,
he’s never really been the marquee pitcher on his team, having
been overshadowed for most of his career by Tom Glavine and Greg
Maddux. And that brings up another point on electability –
if there are comparable, but distinctly superior, candidates on
the ballot, well, the superior candidates are going to be elected
first. There is a chance that any one (or most) of the following
pitchers will be on the Hall of Fame ballot at the same time as
Smoltz (and Schilling, for that matter)… Roger Clemens, Greg
Maddux, Tom Glavine, Randy Johnson and maybe Pedro Martinez. And
all of them (a little iffy in Martinez’ case) have vastly
superior credentials to Smoltz (and Schilling). In fact, because
of their wins, it can be argued (though not here) that Mike Mussina,
Jamie Moyer and David Wells have superior credentials to Smoltz
and Schilling.
So why is it that Schilling will, barring Smoltz extending his
career a lot longer than seems possible (given his present history
of shoulder trouble and his past history of elbow trouble) and picking
up another 50 or 60 wins, go into the Hall before Smoltz? Because
he’s famous. You may not like Schilling, but you cannot deny
his fame. The Bloody Sock… and don’t underestimate the
importance of that episode in his future HOF votes. It is the mnemonic
device that Schilling’s career revolves around. Even Jack
Morris, another marginal candidate has such a moment – game
seven of the 1991 World Series. (And we all know who the OTHER pitcher
was that night, don’t we?) Smoltz has no such moment. Then
there are Schilling’s three, 300 strikeout seasons. All the
big wins in the big games on center stage. The personality –
like Dean and Gomez, he is a great interview, and a character. And,
finally, his cachet as the greatest clutch pitcher of his generation.
That, ladies and gentlemen, is fame. Smoltz just doesn’t have
it, maybe because of being overshadowed by Glavine and Maddux, maybe
because of his more retiring personality, maybe because he’s
pitched his whole career for a faux “America’s Team.”
(In reality, the Braves are not America’s Team. They’re
not even Atlanta’s Team -- that would be the University of
Georgia football team -- except to Georgia Tech alumns.)
The guess is, when they get around to counting the ballots, both
Schilling and Smoltz will have to wait for years, but that Smoltz’
wait will be longer, and his election far more problematic. Certainly,
at this point in time, it is very, very far from a sure thing.
-- John Shiffert
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